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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:29 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: HELP...
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 Post subject: Re: Darn! this was for sillygrits thread and I can not move it!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:08 pm 
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sillygrits wrote:
I also take xanax and that is what pissed me off last night. I wanted on and my mom (who I asked to hide them) would not give me one. So I said f*** it....I'll just drink the rest of the night...stupid decision.

I am not sure that I agree that xanax makes it work any better or worse although I am trying not to take them either...although I only took 1 a day at the most...usually at night.

I also take ambien to sleep which makes me sleep walk and do crazy stuff. I know, i know, do not take with alcohol but I cannot sleep without it. I don't sleep walk when I don't drink...duh!!!

I need to research the baclofen before going into see my shrink. how much do you take?

sillygrits, I do not know how much zanax you are taking but it is what is called a "benzo"
Someone else can give you the correct name for "benzo" I myself do not know it. There are many things written in threads here on this forum about the use of naltrexone and "benzos" combined and the theory is the benzos will hamper the ability of the naltrexone in doing it's medical function. That is why I, myself, am cuttting down on my very small use of zanax. At my highest use of zanax I may take 1.00 mgs per week, and that is not very often. Mostly if I really can not sleep I take 1/2 of a .25 mg pill, that's a pretty small dose. And now I am replacing that with baclofen at night to help me sleep and I find I am really having peaceful dream-filled nights



I have been taking baclofen for a few months now having titrated up. I started with 5 mgs 3 x per day. I now take 20mgs prior to bedtime. I want to start to take it during the day too, but I find I am tired and low energy, so I am hesitant to do that.

KEEP UP THE FIGHT EVERYONE! AT LEAST WE ARE IN ACTION AGAINST THIS POSSESSION :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: HELP...
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:04 am 
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FYI,

I don't want anyone to think I don't understand how serious cutting is when it's a true addiction. As I understand, it's how Bob describes as a way to cope with emotional pain. And adolescent suicide is a very real and horrible problem. A boy at my daughter's school killed himself just before Christmas last year, and it was devastating. I also know couselors have no choice but to assume that any mention of the word "suicide" has to be taken seriously - and with good reason. It just makes me SO angry when these girls lie about serious problems like this (and trust me, I see it ALL the time) when there is true suffering out there. It's like the women that claim to be raped when it's not true - they do a great disservice to the real victims.


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 Post subject: Re: HELP...
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:47 pm 
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This cutting is very distressing to see, quite horrific . Although my daughter is still in hospital this is one of the things she did and has more or less stopped .But i feel it'll recur from time to time .
In kids it's a sign of deep disturbance and alas it does also have the elements of social fad peer group aprouval seeking too . Either /or and both .
Apparently it produces huge releases of endorphines and there's the common hallmark of addictions .
If anyone needs info see this :
http://www.wikihow.com/Stop-Cutting-Yourself

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 Post subject: Re: HELP...
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:16 pm 
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mabelee wrote:
I'm sorry to keep going, but this has struck a nerve. Out of around the approximately 2000 students I've had in class, the number of kids who have committed suicide is in the double digits. The number of kids who died in car accidents is two or three times that number and usually because they were drinking. Kids that age are dying in huge numbers and, as a society, we don't care. We think we have the handle on suffering??
After rereading my post, I made it sound as if younger ones do not ever have the pain that adults do. That was not my intent and I apologize for that.

There are definitely younger ones that have real problems the same or worse than us adults. However, you must admit that there is a certain segment of younger ones, be it large or small (I don't know), that do it to conform with their peers. The younger a person, the more likely this is to occur. The older one becomes, such as someone over 40 or 50 or 60, the less likely they are going to perform this type of behavior, although I suspect that it never truly goes to zero percent.

I personally have revealed a lot of disturbing facts about myself in order to help others. People here know I am a drunk. People here know that I am addicted to the benzodiazepine, Valium. People here know that I have attempted suicide four times. People here now know I used to cut myself to stop the real psychological pain. I also remember peer pressure when I was young.

I trust I have made it clear that I both understand and I care.

Bob

PS I will not be discussing this subject any longer. It's too painful for me to remember those days of cutting.

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 Post subject: Re: HELP...
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DON'T BERATE YOURSELF!

We've all done that. The HARDEST thing I've had to learn (as a co-dependent....you know there's not much difference from alcoholism)...is that DO NOT dwell on what you did or did not do yesterday...but start today with a clean slate. Also...don't allow yourself to think about what you might or might not do tomorrow...it's not here yet.


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 Post subject: Re: HELP...
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Bob, I would personally like to thank you for opening up and being as brave as you have been letting us know all the facts about yourself in order to enlighten and help us all. I think you are doing a wonderful job with all of this. When I see you have posted I can't wait to read what you have said. I always know it will resonate with me.

Celate your post is definitely a good reminder to those of use who have been a bit down lately. A reminder to put one foot in front of the other and move on! Better days are ahead.

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 Post subject: Re: HELP...
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I don't want to talk about it either , it's painful to me too .
But , I will say this when Bob said what he did , somewhere in me it struck a curious
chord .
So I'm a drunk and must be most perverse as well , but it's true all the same .

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