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 Post subject: Re: Snowflake progress
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 2:53 pm 
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Snowflake why not tell your husband about TSM? Maybe it could help him too? Newlife

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Month 1 16/wk av 4AF month
2 17/wk av 5 AF
3 18/wk av 6 AF
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8 17/wk av 5 AF
9 13/wk av 5 AF
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 Post subject: Re: Snowflake progress
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 3:14 pm 
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Newlife - he is in a different place than me with drinking. Does not think there is any problem. So if I tell him I think he has a problem he'll deny, try to stop, possibly fail - and all that comes with denial. I am handling myself and that is enough for me now. I really think that he should find out for himself if he is addicted and if that is a problem...does that make sense?

Uk blonde - thanks, I am already starting to see him realise that chances of succes in the bedroom departement is much better with no or only little drinking :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Snowflake progress
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 3:18 pm 
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Snowflake wrote:
Newlife - he is in a different place than me with drinking. Does not think there is any problem. So if I tell him I think he has a problem he'll deny, try to stop, possibly fail - and all that comes with denial. I am handling myself and that is enough for me now. I really think that he should find out for himself if he is addicted and if that is a problem...does that make sense?

Uk blonde - thanks, I am already starting to see him realise that chances of succes in the bedroom departement is much better with no or only little drinking :lol:


:lol: :lol:

Are you ok with bedroom antics sober?Did you notice a difference?I know it can be scary if you've been used to alcohol in you, but I always say that it's a lot better when you are fully aware, and senses fully alert. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Snowflake progress
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 5:30 pm 
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If I may interject on the delicate politics of dealing with little boys (men)...I see possibilities for problems here. If you do well and he really can't or won't, there could be a subtle inferiority or stubbornness thing develop.
I would at some point lay out that "Honey, I wanted to slow down drinking but couldn't. I wasn't strong enough. I found a way to cheat and now it seems possible for me. Just didn't want you to think I'm supergirl or something. And I wanted you to know why I'm a little cranky sometimes." Then shut up. Let his curiosity get the best of him if he's interested at all. Just be an example. That's what I would best respond to. Right now he probably just knows something's up but we rarely guess right without help. :)
Steve
(ten year boy old with 55 years experience)

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 Post subject: Re: Snowflake progress
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 5:59 pm 
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Steve you are cracking me up!! I don't think I've ever known a man who could admit it.

Snowflake, don't think I am lecturing you. I have not even had the courage to tell my husband I am doing TSM either. The reason? Because he is a moderate drinker who can take or leave alcohol, and, whether he notices it or not, he doesn't say at least that he thinks I have a problem and so I am too embarrassed. So I am in now way trying to act superior or all knowing. Only wanting to help.

So glad that the nal has worked for you!!

Newlife

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Pre-TSM 26 - 30 US Units/week

Month 1 16/wk av 4AF month
2 17/wk av 5 AF
3 18/wk av 6 AF
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7 17/wk av 4 AF
8 17/wk av 5 AF
9 13/wk av 5 AF
10 & 11 NT
Beginning tracking again Week 48
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 Post subject: Re: Snowflake progress
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:19 am 
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My husband knows I am taking Naltrexone and is very supportive. He used to drink more...just cut way back over the last couple of years as my addiction developed. He actually found the article that pointed me toward Naltrexone.

I am so encouraged to read of your progress, Snowflake! Eight weeks alcohol free is amazing! Is it easier to just not drink at all than to drink in moderation?

Thanks for recommending the other threads. I am going to look them up now.

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 Post subject: Re: Snowflake progress
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:26 am 
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Just read through Generic's story on the weekly progress forum. Thanks so much for recommending it. Powerful and brutally honest and such an inspiration. Highly recommend for anyone starting out with Nal...or anyone frustrated. Truly and incredible story.

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 Post subject: Re: Snowflake progress
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 3:13 pm 
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Hello again, sorry I dropped out for a couple of days ;)

@ UK blonde - I'm fine with sober bedroom antics, though I must say we've some VERY good times after a few 8-) I have never liked it when really drunk - I find that performance drops for both sexes. I completely refuse if I am sober and my husband drunk (that is not the case if it has been the other way around :D)

@ Steve - You are probably right. I'll might just drop the "I'm not supergirl" line. He'll get it - he is a great guy. Since he is very competitive ( in that 10-year-old boy way) he could think up his own little sobriety-competition with me, and I don't want that :D I have bad experiences with giving up addictions together. Tried it with smoking, and we ended up sneaking around, smoking behind eachothers back, completely ridiculous! Anyway he is definately using his own moderation methods right now, because he drinking less that half of what he used to.

@ Newlife - I don't feel lectured, I very much appreciate your comments and suggestions. My husband may be more like yours. Although he can build up a very large alcohol consumption it seems that he can cut back on it to moderation too. Me - I can't, when I have tried moderation without nal, it has only worked for as long as I've made it my absolute top priority.

@Othila - I think it is great that you and your husband share! I think perhaps I am not ready to say anywhere else but here that I am addicted, not even to my husband or closest friends. And now 8 weeks AF gives me hope that I may be knocking the addiction out with the help of nal (and fear of SE :))

Right now it is easier to not drink at all. I drank very little the first 5 days on nal. Like many others I just didn't feel like it, I felt a little spaced out, then very sleepy, then ok, then freezing, and had the weirdest vivid dreams...After 5 days the SE were nearly gone, but my ulcer had returned. Since I took Selincro, I could choose between the ulcer medication or nal - but not take both. So I decided to go AF until the ulcer had calmed down again. I think it was 5 or 6 days later I was ready for the next drinking session with nal. I cleared a bottle of red wine. Woke up with a horrible hangover - could even have been a nalover :mrgreen: yuk! After that I have tried to drink with nal on 3 occations, no more that two drinks, and I get SE again!

Now I am stringing AF days - going for 100. And it is not a problem. I now have days where I don't think of AL, and when I do it is mostly like: hmm, I don't even miss it.
As UK Blonde has mentioned, I feel my thinking is changing. AL has somehow lured my normally very rational me into thinking AL was a good choice of self-medication for relaxing and sleeping, when it is actually so not true. The body has nowhere to put AL, it is just a mild poison, and it definately does not make you sleep better.

Oh, I'm ranting now, must be tired :)

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February: 1, 27 AF
March: 0, 31 AF
April: 0, 30 AF
May: 0, 31 AF
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 Post subject: Re: Snowflake progress
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:28 pm 
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Wow, Snowflake. Days where you don't even think of AL. I want that. I envy you. At the same time I couldn't be happier for you. Hugs from Newlife

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started 3/3/15
Pre-TSM 26 - 30 US Units/week

Month 1 16/wk av 4AF month
2 17/wk av 5 AF
3 18/wk av 6 AF
4 NT
5 NT
6 NT
7 17/wk av 4 AF
8 17/wk av 5 AF
9 13/wk av 5 AF
10 & 11 NT
Beginning tracking again Week 48
Wk 48 18/2 49 14.5/2


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 Post subject: Re: Snowflake progress
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:28 pm 
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Nothing much new this week. Another AF week :D

Went to a big galla last friday. There was excellent food, and from what the other guests said also excellent wine. It was however a real hassle to get something to drink without AL! We were two non-AL-drinkers at our table, and naturally we managed, but I do think posh places should care as much about non-AL drink choices as they do their wine cellar!

Anyway - it was still a great party. I would normally have stayed reasonably sober there, and then have had 3 glasses of wine after getting home. I didn't. Woke up completely refreshed, and enjoying no hangover and no remorse.

All the best!

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February: 1, 27 AF
March: 0, 31 AF
April: 0, 30 AF
May: 0, 31 AF
June: 0, 30 AF


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