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 Post subject: Naltrexone experiences
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:35 am 
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Another question I have for all...did you ever consider drinking WITHOUT Nal to get that high? If so, what was it like?


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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone experiences
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:45 pm 
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I never have, but I've heard of people doing it. There are a few oddballs out there who take nal to keep themselves under control in some situations, but seek to get smashed in others. These folks are obviously not looking for a true cure. :?

I have no idea how that works out long-term, though. I would guess that they take nal less and less often, and eventually end up back in the dark hole again.

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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone experiences
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:07 pm 
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I try notto think about that. It takes disciple, but i try to only remember my experience of drinking on nal.

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Skipping nal? Not waiting the full hour?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement

Read "intermittent reinforcement" and "schedules"

Pre: 14-30/wk
9 Oct 13: 2.5
15 Oct 13: 3.5
17 Nov 13: 1.75
28 Feb 14: 2
1 Apr 14: 2


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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone experiences
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:13 pm 
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I drank a time or two without the Nal and it didn't feel like it did before I started taking Nal.

I briefly thought that maybe I could occasionally drink without it but someone around here suggested googling "intermittent reinforement and extinction" which I did then got scared! This is one thing I read:

"One of the useful principles discovered by behavioral psychologists is that intermittent reinforcement increases resistance to extinction."

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Week 21: 5, 6 AF (in 1/14) (currently off NAL and up to 24-40/weekly)
Week 17-20 Avg: 14, 4.75 AF
Weeks 13-16 Avg: 3, 6.25 AF
Weeks 9-12 Avg: 8, 4.75 AF
Weeks 5-8 Avg: 10, 5 AF
Weeks 1 - 4 Avg: 17, 3 AF


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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone experiences
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:15 pm 
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Im glad you did google it. As you found out, its a really, really bad idea.

Now I feel like I got some value out of that psych 101 class all those years ago. ;)

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Skipping nal? Not waiting the full hour?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement

Read "intermittent reinforcement" and "schedules"

Pre: 14-30/wk
9 Oct 13: 2.5
15 Oct 13: 3.5
17 Nov 13: 1.75
28 Feb 14: 2
1 Apr 14: 2


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 Post subject: Re: Naltrexone experiences
PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:45 pm 
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sideeffect2 wrote:
Im glad you did google it. As you found out, its a really, really bad idea.

Now I feel like I got some value out of that psych 101 class all those years ago. ;)


I was a psych major and conveniently forgot that.... :lol: Thank you!

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Pre-TSM Units (approx): 33

Week 21: 5, 6 AF (in 1/14) (currently off NAL and up to 24-40/weekly)
Week 17-20 Avg: 14, 4.75 AF
Weeks 13-16 Avg: 3, 6.25 AF
Weeks 9-12 Avg: 8, 4.75 AF
Weeks 5-8 Avg: 10, 5 AF
Weeks 1 - 4 Avg: 17, 3 AF


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